Beyond Global Warming

B28266 / Thu, 15 May 2008 17:02:52 / Environment


Roger Pielke Sr. is a retired professor of atmospheric science at Colorado State University, Ft. Collins, and a senior research scientist at the University of Colorado, Boulder.

Since July 2005 he has written and maintained a Climate Science blog that serves as a scientific forum for dialogue and commentary on climate issues.

With William R. Cotton, he is the co-author of Human Impacts on Weather and Climate (Cambridge University Press, 2007).

And over the past summer he co-hosted a conference entitled “Land Use and Climate Change,” in Boulder, Colorado.

While Dr. Pielke rejects being characterized as a “global warming skeptic,” his work is unwaveringly critical of the current conventional wisdom regarding climate change and what to do about it.

EcoWorld Editor Ed Ring recently caught up with Dr. Pielke, who had the following to say on the topic:

Sometimes no Peace

terrible bad average good great


There is a very important new weblog on water vapor and cloud feedbacks within the climate system as represented by the models used to project multi-decadal climate change.

The paper is

GWHunta @ 05/15/08 17:07:38

This study indicates that the IPCC models are overpredicting global warming in response to positive radiative forcing.

GWHunta @ 05/15/08 17:14:09

Lonesome when you link a little reality to LOLZ Land.

Sometimes no Piece

GWHunta @ 05/16/08 15:13:47


Valid critique.

I simply cut and pasted it from the article headlined, whose subhead was all in caps.

Same with the summary. I didn’t take the time to write something as I’ve had some limited contact with Pielke since this initial e-mail and was invited to post on his Climate Science blog and did.

While my explanation for anthropogenic climate influence hasn’t exactly caught fire with the scientific community any more so than on GNN, most of the comments were positive and supportive and none of the scientists who frequent the site disputed my assertions, though I was set straight on the fact that humid air masses have a tendency to rise as they are indeed lighter than a dry air mass of the same temperature and pressure.

A lesson in atmospheric physics I’d learned but neglected to explain my meaning in detail when making statements concerning moisture laden air remaining near the surface and not rising due to convection as would have the same dry air impacted by sensible heating.

My observations and explanation remains correct, though my explanation neglected to explain that the reason this wetter air mass remains nearer the surface isn’t because it is made heavier by the additional water vapor, but is because it remains cooler because the additional energy it contains is latent, not sensible heat.

Anyway, I’ve over elaborated once again, but thanks for your interest and I look forward to your support and participation in later discussion of the issue.


GWHunta @ 05/19/08 09:30:34

GW, just checking in to say I’ve done a lot of research into this, and you are totally right and right on. Thank you.

Chickenma1 @ 06/05/08 04:46:26

/me laughs myself into unconsciousness

Science @ 06/05/08 05:11:19

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