Fascism Defined

B12175 / Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:35:55 / Civil Liberties

When the liberties, properties, inherent rights or legitimate entitlements of the individual citizen are abridged, delayed, denied or deferred in favor of the interests of a local, state or federal government; such action must be legal, ethical and essential to protect or enhance the legitimate interests of that government.

Action taken or withheld by any government or agent thereof against the legitimate interests of the individual, solely for economic advantage or in an effort to be expedient, violate the rights of both that individual and the society to which he belongs.

Such action, taken or withheld, tears the fabric of democratic society and when applied universally constitute fascism.


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I don’t think it is a very good definition, because it is far too broad, in fact broad enough to easily cover kleptocricy, or even routine corruption, neither of which I believe are fascism.

alexander @ 01/13/06 20:15:58

It also doesn’t deal with many other issues which I believe have come to define the word Fascism in its original and contemporary usage. For instance, military economies or use of state propaganda (as originally defined by Mussolini, expounded upon by Hitler and refined by several dozen other nation-states).

This definition , as Alexander points out, seems to dillute the meaning of the word, especially in historical context.

Desarollo @ 01/13/06 20:40:29

I thought this definition diluted it’s meaning entirely in any context, let alone the nuances of how it was used in past times.

A modern definition of Fascism as a specific institutional arrangement I believe must mention what you include as important elements. Fascism, in what and how we define today, I believe is the fusion of private and government interests, using control (whether direct or through private aggrigation) of mass media to mobilize and militarize the population as a whole on behalf of and against the enemy of the wealthy.

This definition covers the four characteristics most often cited in modern fascism; social conformity, militarization, mass media control, and fusion of government and corporate interests. This definition particularly works well in reference to the (often rediculous) tin horn Latin American and African dictator acting on behalf of wealthy oligarths we commonly saw after ww2, a form to which I believe Bush exemplifies.

alexander @ 01/13/06 21:11:17

I find the definition from the American Heritage Dictionary to be the best:

fas-cism (fash’iz’em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.

Colin @ 01/13/06 22:03:30

Colin, that particular definition explains the U.S. as it is today…

alexander @ 01/13/06 22:45:34

Wrong pal….

Most facist regimes in the world were nothing but dogs of corporative and economical interests.

TheHyperT @ 01/14/06 01:35:27

Good topic. I voted.

Let me make some opinions based on a historical perspective, as opposed to pure ideology.

In general, Fascism is an aggressive national stance developed by (supposed) capitalist democracies. Those militant leaders initiating a fascist regime do so on the grounds of reacting to a national emergency. The perceived emergency pertains to serious economic and social chaos, blamed on foreign influence/attacks and leftwing domestic disorder.

Fascism developed in Third World countries is nearly always the product of meddling advanced states, secretly helping domestic contenders to topple their own democracy. But I won’t elaborate on these kind of banana republics.

Instead, I’ll focus on fascism emerging in advanced states. All advanced states had or have some degree of democracy. However, when economic and geostrategical imperatives become so intense, an advanced capitalist state must curtail its own democratic and civil institutions, in order to move more aggressively to resolve its major problems and to pursue its opportunities.

Fascism is what happens to a capitalist state when the “gloves come off” and usually there’s a rush toward conquest or re-conquest. Not only does the fascist state seek to “clean” itself of unwanted elements, it most of all wishes to secure and expand its chief economic interests — whatever resources, markets, trade zones, etc. which keep it strong in the face of its encroaching rivals.

The Japanese style of fascism was economically driven. Facing economic chaos and foreign containment prior to Pearl Harbour, Japan gambled to solve its problems by the gun. Its markets and finances were suffering; its resource intake frustrated. Thus it moved rapidly to remedy this.

Germany too, woefully bankrupt and its wealth and territory stolen away, accepted the Nazi style of fascism. To resolve its perceived emergencies and grievances, the Third Reich would at first reverse the Treaty of Versailles, break the power of the obstructing English and French (in so doing, swallowing up smaller countries that served as strategic zones), which would then open to door to pure imperialism in the east where endless resources and lebensraum awaited. Not to mention the plan of depopulation — for jews and gentiles alike.

Germany, the second largest industrial base in the world at that time, had been blocked and checked for decades, while the other advanced states colonized and expanded their markets throughout the globe. It was time for the gamble. Acquiring oil and minerals and were major considerations behind their strategy. Their ultimate economic plan was to make Germany MittelEuropa, the economic centre of Europe, with all vassals and federated members linked to its new order. It was to be a neo-mercantile economy, in which all its resources and goods, imports and exports, were contained in a self-sufficient bubble.

Arguably, America is developing its own kind of fascism through a gradual phase of mini-revolutions occuring within its supposed democratic structures. The executive branch, the bureaucrats, and the legislators are synchronizing some of their efforts (despite their public bantering) to “take the gloves off” so that the republic can move more lithely and aggressively to attend its ecnomic emergencies.

In the name of fighting insidious foreign threats, the quasi-fascist American republic is defending and expanding its chief economic interests throughout the world. Why? Its mighty businesses are ailing; its markets are nervous; its ever-so-important control over energy supplies is endangered and challenged; its debts and currency problems are truly beginning to show; its old friends are now serious trade & business rivals in the globalized world; its control over some previously friendly zones is challenged; its old enemies are rising again, while it plainly sees new rivals in Asia. And its control and depedency on funds from global drug trafficking was jeopardized.

American leaders, military-corporate fascists, have taken the gloves off primarily to control Eurasia, but also to counter anyone else, any country or person, who gets in their way. This includes any American citizen, I assume, as well, although vestiges of the republic are still alive and well, countering the pressures to turn the country completely fascist.

Continuity @ 01/14/06 02:20:12

As a footnote, countries who supposedly developed communism were poorer, less industrialized, and more agrarian than advanced states.

They used the communist propaganda in an effort to primarily rid themselves of foreign imperial penetration from the advanced states. If successful, the regimes used the centralizing power to guard their respective spheres of influence and develop their own advanced state.

Fascism and communism, according to history so far, are not permanent states of being, but vicious reactions to emergencies.

Continuity @ 01/14/06 02:25:22

Except that no country has actually claimed to be communist, as that term would be an oxymoron. It is only a myth propagated by the West.

“United Soviet Socialist Republics,” “Socialism with Chinese characteristics,” etc.

However, anti-capitalist propaganda was used to sway the lower classes in these countries to submit to their respective Leninist and Maoist dictators, which, in a sense, also means that the Marxist definition of socialism has not existed. Actually, Lenin himself called the Soviet Union “state-capitalist” on numerous occasions.

Colin @ 01/14/06 12:08:06

Colin, I agree. That’s why I used words like supposed and propaganda. Ideology and historical outcome, when it comes to details, rarely coincided.

The ‘socialists’, however, made a point of saying in their propaganda speeches, that they were moving from socialism (quirky state capitalism) to a stake of Marxist communism. It was nonsense of course, but it’s what post-Stalinist leaders blabbed about.

In the end, I view the big nations that propagandized about socialism as really using that propaganda to centralize, industrialize, and reverse Western imperial penetration. The ideology and police state was just a psychological means to an end.

Continuity @ 01/14/06 13:02:37

Democracies don’t devolve into dictatorships on the orders of tyrants, but by the actions of the cowards who follow them.

GWHunta @ 09/13/07 20:03:52

nice little find on the wayback, g-dub. does the direction of a country count when defining a trend towards a kinder gentler fascism? would a warning fall on deaf ears?
freedom doesn’t necessarily breed laziness and complacency, but fighting for your freedom is definitely the antithesis for both.

Dubya @ 09/13/07 21:04:18

The redefinition and the reestablishment of actual democracy will require a national self examination and determination to reverse the current situation.

In light of the current global population boom and facing limited material and energy resources the time and opportunity for altering the current course may well have passed.

That said, so long as there is life, there is hope.

The last refuge.


GWHunta @ 09/13/07 22:24:10

10 Responses to Fascism Defined

  1. gwhunta says:

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    Manned space flights are about over for the foreseeable future for the US.

    Talk about a “just in time delivery.”

    Robonaut 2 ready for OJT on NASA’s second to last shuttle/station shuffle prior to the upcoming Russian monopoly on manned orbital spaceflight.

    But Robonaut 2 wasn’t designed just for spaceflight, it’s designed for other aerospace applications as well.

    I see being legless an advantage for a robotic pilot, once it’s bolted into place in the cockpit there would be little reason to remove it between flights and if it can fly a plane, it could certainly operate a power chair for travel to and from storage and/or maintainance.

    Hard not to imagine these machines quickly working their way down through the transportation hierarchy. Astronaut, pilot, engineer, conductor and truckdriver. No drugs, fatigue, “human” error, time off, retirement or compensation. Just the initial capital investment, upgrades and maintainence.

    Imagine being a police officer riding shotgun with Robonaut2 driving your squad car and supervising your public interactions.

    Seems there’s no end in sight for the future uses of robotic technology and less need than ever for the billions of humans worldwide that are currently under or completely unemployed. The environmental and energy savings of robotic “employees” over human beings will more than offset the capital expenditure once production of robots is scaled up.

    Seems the Federal Government saved GM and doomed the rest of us in the process.

    Sometimes no Piece

  2. gwhunta says:

    Behind the Arab Revolt Is a Word We Dare Not Speak

    Feel free to leave a definition of your own while you’ve still got the means to.

    Sometimes no Peace

  3. GWHunta says:

    Obama to Veto Any Attempt to Roll Back Automatic Cuts After Committee’s Inability to Reach Debt Deal

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