U.S. death toll in Iraq reaches 4,000


B27634 / Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:48:59 / Iraq

In a major escalation in the level of violence within Iraq, 4 U.S. servicemen have been killed by an IED in a Baghdad attack, bringing the total number of U.S. deaths in Iraq to 4,000.

The U.S. “Green Zone” in Baghdad has since Easter Sunday been under one of the heaviest and prolonged series of mortar and rocket attacks it has endured in many months.

The “surge” strategy advocated and executed by the Bush administration for the past year or so has been widely viewed domestically as having been successful in quelling the violence in Iraq.

This general perception was evidenced by Republican presidential hopeful Senator John McCain’s recently completed campaign trip to the Middle East, whereby he attempted to capitalize on this illusion of “surge” success.

McCain’s trip was highlighted by photo ops and public declarations of his unwavering support for the U.S. “war” effort while in Iraq.

It would seem that the Iraqi insurgency is anything but defeated at the outset of this sixth year of war in Iraq. The insurgents seem to understand as well the political implications and the potential for an the current U.S. presidential race and quite possibly the destiny of Iraq by insuring that the U.S. occupation of Iraq remains first and foremost on the minds of the U.S. electorate.

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Frontline indeed.

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GWHunta @ 03/24/08 04:49:55

The Iraqis have fought back bravely against overwhelming odds. Americans are cowardly fucking filth, and need to be defeated before the jews (the driving force of evil in the world) can be brought to account.

Chi @ 03/24/08 08:52:24

By Michael Munk

US military occupation forces in Iraq suffered at least 65 combat
casualties in the week ending March 19, as the official casualty total
reached at least 64,868. The total includes 32,706 dead and
wounded by what the Pentagon classifies as “hostile” causes and 32,162
(as of March 1) dead and injured from “non-hostile” causes.

The actual total is almost 85,000 because the Pentagon chooses not to count
as “Iraq casualties” the approximately 20,000 casualties discovered only
after they returned from Iraq -mainly brain trauma from explosions.

In addition, a rare report showed that 1,123 “US civilian contractors” has been killed since the invasion, including a record 353 in 2007. No numbers are available on the wounded and injured, nor about casualties among the “contractors” who are not US citizens. (Houston Post, Feb. 9, 2008.)

US media divert attention from the actual cost in American life and limb by routinely reporting only the total killed (3,992 as of March 19) and rarely mentioning the 29,451 wounded in combat. To further minimize public perception of the cost, they cover for the Pentagon by ignoring the 31,325 (as of March 1) military victims of accidents and illness serious enough to require medical air evacuation, although the 3,992 reported deaths
> include 737 (no change last week ) who died from those same causes, including 145 suicides.(up 10 since Jan. 10). In a rare report on this issue

March 7, the AP quoted an expert that “The Pentagon keeps two sets of books” on injured soldiers—one for 29,451 WIA and another for the 31, 325 medically evacuated for “non combat” reasons.

The number of wounded is updated weekly (usually Tuesdays) by the
> Pentagon at http://www.defenselink.mil/news/casualty.pdf. The dead are
> reported by Iraq Coalition Casualties http://www.icasualties.org/oif/

IllusoryPromises @ 03/24/08 10:40:45


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GWHunta @ 03/24/08 12:32:21

It’s quite fun to fight ‘em, you know. It’s a hell of a hoot. It’s fun to shoot some people. I’ll be right up front with you, I like brawling.
~ Lt. Gen. James Mattis, USMC

GWHunta @ 03/24/08 12:41:13

The preponderance of the Republican Guard divisions outside of Baghdad are now dead. I find it interesting when folks say we’re softening them up. We’re not softening them up, we’re killing them.
Lt. Gen. Michael Moseley, USAF, 5 April 2003.

kbz @ 03/24/08 13:27:18

Chi @ 03/24/08 14:19:35

GWHunta @ 03/27/08 09:21:09

4003 today.

GWHunta @ 03/27/08 09:27:40

“before the jews (the driving force of evil in the world) can be brought to account.”

You tell ‘em Hitler Jr.!

Science @ 03/27/08 09:33:07

Americans aren’t cowardly filth, or, I dare you to say that to a real soldier, face to face…

It’s that war, as my war hero, William T. Sherman said, over and over, is all hell, pure hell, and unavoidably a misery-inducing, deadly, poisonous business…

That’s the point missed by the engineers (and hopeful supporters) of this war – war cannot, I think, be fought for liberation – you might as well fight a war for “happiness” – not when those you’re planning to liberate are those you’re also fighting.

But, “popeye” McCain tells it to us plainly: it really is the project for the New American Century – the whole goddamned century, too…

Bless those soldiers, and may the upcoming shuffle in Washington put a swifter end to our expenditure of life and resources in the Mid East.

Liam @ 04/06/08 17:42:22

Bloody Sunday: 5 GIs, 81 Iraqis Killed; 31 GIs, 126 Iraqis Wounded

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GWHunta @ 04/06/08 21:39:25

Yep – the stats for monthly kills were looking bad. It’s good to see they have shaped-up and are back on form.

It’s good to see the freedom fighters are lobbing bombs and mortars into the Green Zone ($250 billion Nazi death compound run by jews) to give the scum in there a bit of stress.

Fucking cowards

Chi @ 04/06/08 22:20:26

Liam – my war hero, William T. Sherman

Lovely, you idolize a man who advocated genocide; who spoke of “the final solution of the Indian problem.”

“We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children. (The Sioux must) feel the superior power of the Government.

During an assault, the soldiers cannot pause to distinguish between male and female, or even discriminate as to age.” – W.T. Sherman

sisyphus @ 04/06/08 23:21:44

Look at you! You’re really on a tear. Good for you, all that venom out of your system.

Again, thank you for passively validating my point – war is all hell – and only an ideologue would throw, never mind themselves, but others into the breach without the gravest consideration.

That’s what makes Iraq such a mess….it’s like these guys (bush, cheney) never read a lick of history to know the tactical likelihood of success – or the cost of prolonged engagement with prolonged loss and tactical failure.

I think our friend Michael Kane would talk about the neo-con’s actual incentive – I think he did in a recent thread – so I quote him:

That oil is the second largest proven reserve on the planet. Sadam had deals with European, Russian and Chinese companies before our invasion. All that was scrapped and now the US is doing everything it can to get as big a cut on Iraq’s nationalized oil as possible. That is the most important aspect of why we are there in terms of economics coupled with the military profiteering that all wars are fought for.

Wars are fought for so many reasons – not the least of which is that humanity likes to fight – see the boards at GNN, or on much of the web, for the constant will to argument.

But… there’s also the argument that humanity can be lured out of war, as it was – or was said to be – out of slavery, or the slave trade.

That is, that the cost of war, among the western powers – the nuclear threat – is too high to consider warfare an option.

Of course, so much of the world doesn’t have nuclear weapons – and those who do don’t want others to – so much of the world doesn’t live in a world where war is not an option.

And I think it’s fair to say that had Iraq really had nuclear weapons, that we wouldn’t be occupying it.

Liam @ 04/07/08 08:04:47

The following is a somewhat dated excerpt from a blog I wrote sometime ago that crosses both Iraq and the parallels with the slaughter of native North Americans.

Iraq with 10% of the world’s oil reserves and only .004% of the world’s population is a prime example. Economics has always prevailed over ethics. As for the expense of the war, now racing towards 250 billion, if you work that cost out towards the potential reward of control of a 115 billion barrel crude oil reserve, it is just over $2.00 a barrel. Worst case estimates now put the cost of the war possibly as high as trillion dollars.

$8.70 a barrel.

Given reduced production costs because of the nature of oil drilling in the region’s geography along with today’s higher value placed on crude oil, that’s still a relative bargain basement price for cornering this market.

The economic experts now put the total cost of the occupation of Iraq at nearly 3 trillion dollars.

That’d be a $25.00 a barrel while the market is yielding $100 and up.

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GWHunta @ 04/07/08 08:29:23

Today oil hit $109.48 a barrel.

When came into office, oil was $29.59 a barrel.

The world uses 86 million barrels a day. So is costing the world $687,054,000,000 [$687 billion] a day, just for crude oil, for his wars, corruption and incompetence (but hey – he and his jew and Neocon cronies are making piles of money – why should they care?)

There is a reasonable chance that oil will be more than $125 a barrel when leaves office.

Anyway, there is only $11 trillion worth of oil in Iraq, and about half of the value of annual gross export sales are given to the Iraq sock-puppet government, $35 billion. The US might be thieving $35 billion a year of Iraq’s oil, but almost all of that is lining the pockets of jews and other Neocon Nazis.

My point being, the US taxpayers will never benefit, or even be repaid, from Iraq oil. Only jews, Neocons and scum like Bush, Blair, Clinton and the filth in the US congress, will see the money. The argument that the Iraq war is a sound economic deal for the USA does not stand up.

Chi @ 04/07/08 15:50:49

It’s not about sound economics for the citizens of the U.S.

It’s about limiting the access and controlling the flow of oil from the Persian Gulf.

But ultimately the bottom line is that it’ll be all about U.S. vs them.

GWHunta @ 04/07/08 19:01:54

…….and probably them as well.

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GWHunta @ 04/07/08 19:14:09

In the meantime……..

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GWHunta @ 04/07/08 19:16:48

thank you for passively validating my point – war is all hell

You have a serious reading comprehension problem, and are a condescending pedant.

sisyphus @ 04/09/08 12:56:04

Hell and not so pure profit …….

GWHunta @ 04/09/08 14:31:27

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